Saturday, 24 June 2006

Boat Ordinations

Oh dear! it's that time of year again. Today three women were ordained 'Catholic' priests on board a boat on Lake Constance: two Americans (Regina Nicolasi and Jane Via) and a Swiss (Monika Wyss). Another lady, who (rather bizarrely) wished to remained anonymous, was 'ordained' deacon. The ceremony was presided over by 'Bishops' Gisela Forster, Patricia Fresen and Christine Mayr-Lumetzberger.

Monika Wyss, a divorced mother of four, said that she wanted to exercise the normal priestly duties: celebrating Mass, baptisms, weddings, 'and, more importantly, to be there for those who need help.' Hmmm - that, in itself, shows a rather limited understanding of the Sacred Priesthood.

A further 'Ordination' takes place on 31st July - again on a boat, this time leaving from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and sailing in international waters along the Three Rivers (Allegheny, Monongahela and Ohio). One of the candidates for the 'diaconate' describes herself as 'lesbian by birth, Catholic by choice' and works as a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender rights activist. I think we know where she's coming from!

For a video of the gals being ordained last year, click here. Not wanting to give any more publicity to these events, let us in the meantime pray for those who have thus chosen to leave the Communion of the Catholic Church.


Anonymous averla said...


Why do you write so strangely?

So many quotation marks!

Don't you understand the meanings of these words? Check out the womenpriests website. They'll 'splain all to you.

Do you think your loaded language--bizarrely, where she's coming from, gals--adds anything to your piece?

Actually it suggests you know well "where she's coming from."

Doesn't matter. All are welcome in our congregation.

Why not clean up your act? Drop the personal attacks. Stop the sophomoric devices. Tell us where you are coming from. Then tell us what/why you object. Then you might receive a significant reply.

Remember, these women are well-educated, and well-trained, and any of them can hold their own in a genuine intellectual discussion.

2:49 am  
Blogger Fr Nicholas said...

Pax Christi!

As I suspect you know, this is where I'm coming from, neatly summed up by John Paul II in Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994):

'Priestly ordination, which hands on the office entrusted by Christ to his Apostles of teaching, sanctifying and governing the faithful, has in the Catholic Church from the beginning always been reserved to men alone...(However], the presence and the role of women in the life and mission of the Church, although not linked to the ministerial priesthood, remain absolutely necessary and irreplaceable.'

Disagreeing with this is one thing, but going ahead and ordaining women outside the Church is another.

9:21 am  
Blogger Jeffrey Smith said...

I've found that many complaints about "personal attacks" tend to be rather snide. Averla's certainly sounded that way. Try looking at how other Catholic blogs are handling this issue, you'll see what a real personal attack is like. As for myself, I don't have much patience with adults engaging in play-acting.

4:32 pm  
Anonymous Andrew said...

Dear Averla

You said, "Don't you understand the meanings of these words? Check out the womenpriests website. They'll 'splain all to you."

I find it incredibly bewildering that you accuse Fr. Nic of writing so "strangely" when you can't even spell the word "explain". May I suggest that you take a course in the English language before criticising others:

With the peace and love of Christ

Andrew (a Catholic who tries to be loyal to Rome, unlike some *cough... averla... cough*)

1:44 pm  
Blogger Joee Blogs said...

Dear Averla,

I wonder if I could pick up on a couple of points you made.

Firstly I find it sad that you are so disrespectful to a hardworking Priest of Christ - Fr Nicholas recently organised for his confirmandee to be taken on a day retreat which I can only imagine must have been a lot of work.

Secondly, as regards your mono-policy of feminism, no more needs to be said on it as the Church in her Wisdom and Truth has spoken.

I do wonder how it is possible to be opposed to the Church as you are, and thus opposed to Christ? Can there be such a thing as being loyally opposed to Christ by behaving in such a manner?

I watched the video and looked at the website you mentioned. Perhaps you would return the goodwill and check out my blog - the blog of a Catholic 21 year old, loyal to the Church, ie loyal to Christ.

Oremus pro invicem.


1:27 am  

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